Truth Matters July 2014

28 07 2014

The “Up” Side of Heresy

by Rev. Robert S. Liichow

July 2014 Newsletter pdf

Presbyterian Church Leaders Declare Gay Marriage Is Christian

DETROIT — The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) voted by large margins Thursday to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in the church constitution, adding language that marriage can be the union of “two people,” not just “a man and a woman.”
The amendment approved by the Presbyterian General Assembly requires approval from a majority of the 172 regional presbyteries, which will vote on the change over the next year. But in a separate policy change that takes effect at the end of this week’s meeting, delegates voted to allow ministers to preside at gay weddings in states where the unions are legal and local congregational leaders approve. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia recognize same-sex marriage.

This News is GREAT News for Christians!

An obvious and correct response is that the Presbyterian Church USA has departed from the clear teaching of scripture regarding what marriage is before our holy God as well as His universal condemnation of homosexuality. This departure is both shameful as well as sinful. The Presbyterians are not the only mainline denomination to compromise their biblical stance for the culture of our time. In the spirit of full-disclosure I must add that the United Methodists, Episcopalians and ELCA Lutherans and others have embraced the spirit of the age as the chart on the following page indicates:

We are living in the midst of history in the making and we are seeing the mass defection of historic denominations from many orthodox Christian doctrines and practices (The Church of Rome is no better off, but that is for another article). As grieving as this is, there is a positive and exciting side to what is taking place also that we would do well to consider.

Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For
there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. I Cor. 11:17-19

The Apostle Paul’s context is concerning the abuses around Holy Communion and that instead of the blessedness that comes from Christian unity when the Corinthians gathered it was a cause for strife and division. However, I see a principle in what Paul is writing as well —- that of the beneficial nature of heresies.

The Church has witnessed over the last few years a huge falling away from the orthodox teaching regarding marriage and sexuality (a very “bad” thing) however, by taking such an obvious and egregious anti-scriptural position these denominations have given their members a very clear and unmistakable sign as to the LACK of fidelity their group has to the Word of the God they proclaim to love and obey.

The public declaration of support (as voiced by the majority of voters in each denomination) for sodomy by these religious organizations is tantamount to joyfully shouting aloud “Ichabod” (“the glory has departed,” see 1 Samuel 3:1) in their voter’s assemblies and in that shout there is an UNMISTAKBLE clarion call from the Lord of Sabaoth crying out “FLEE these apostate assemblies.

Now allow me to give a very brief biblical overview regarding homosexuality. From Genesis to the Revelation of Jesus Christ homosexuality and all sexual activity outside of the covenant of marriage is sinful, end of story. In Genesis 19:1-11 we read of the denizens of Sodom demanding to have homosexual sex with the “visitors.” We all know the end result of Sodom and her sister city Gomorrah. This catastrophic event should be sufficient proof of our Lord’s hatred of their sin. Not convinced yet? How about Leviticus 18:22 which says:Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.” A bit later on in this same book we have — Leviticus 20:13 If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.” A tad bit too “O.T” for some? Then, perhaps consider meditating long and hard concerning what the Apostle Paul says in Romans:

But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness…. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. Romans 1:18-32

In these words I see a pattern of regression from knowing God, to willfully casting aside what was truly known of Him for their own fallen beliefs about Him. In other words these people have gone from what is sure and certain about God (His Word) into speculation about Him based on their fallen reason (the cultural zeitgeist) and the current societal mores.

The end result of such folly according to Romans is that God ABANDONS them (Ichabod) to their basest desires. Folks, nothing has changed since the Holy Spirit led Paul to pen these eternal words. Homosexuality seems to be about the last stage of a society filling up the cup of the wrath of God which is coming upon all the disobedient:

Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: Col. 3:5-6

Historically when any civilization/culture embraces and normalizes homosexuality it is slated for destruction and soon falls.

Those who have been partners with DMI from its beginning over 17 years ago know that we have never supported the belief in a huge end-time world-wide soul winning revival prior to the return of Jesus Christ. In fact, from our research of the Bible we have come to the opposite opinion, as the next article will demonstrate.

From the very beginning of our history as a people our God has always chosen the “least” and never the most obvious. Israel was the least of all peoples and God chose them. He chose Jacob over Esau, Joseph the youngest over his brothers, even as He chose David (a shepherd) over Saul (a keeper of asses) and many other examples could be cited (Gideon, etc). Thus, when I read about these huge shakings taking place in the midst of the major denominations (I am not forgetting the Church of Rome or other organizations, they too are being shaken by other compromises) I see the “hidden hand of God” moving just like the eagle stirring her nest (see Deut. 32:11).

God uses the social pressures, stresses and forces swirling around us to purify His people even as silver is melted and heated to a high degree to remove the dross (see Prov. 25:4). The cauldron of culture is burbling away and the true foundations of many denominations are being exposed for what they are —– built on shifting sand:

Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be likewise man who built his house on the rock.And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be likefoolish man who built his house on the sand.And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” Matthew 7:24-27

Every denomination and congregation faces the SAME cultural storms of life. The only determining factor as to who remains standing when the storm passes is whether or not they heard the Word of God and acted upon what they have heard.

The Presbyterians, United Methodists, Anglicans, the ELCA, Quakers and Church of Christ ALL know what God has said, they have willfully chosen to do the opposite. Apart from repentance (which currently does not seem likely) nothing remains for them but the sure judgment of God.

Flee From the Wrath to Come

My best counsel on this matter is that any congregation who names the name of Jesus Christ as their Lord is they depart their apostate denomination. Not every congregation in the Presbytery supported this ungodly measure. Those that did not support the sodomite agenda should leave because if they stay then they are tacitly agreeing with the decision. Those who say “God wants us to stay and change things” are deluded. What if Noah had taken that “pious” stance? Sweet mother-of-pearl people! Martin Luther tried to stay and change the Church of Rome, he had no success. Are these pseudo-reformers going to be more effective than a Luther? I think not.

If I were a member of a congregation which voted in favor of this sin I would leave immediately and never darken their door again. Naturally, I would write a nice letter to all the members I knew telling them exactly why our family left. The time of separation is upon us brothers and sisters and it will become even more evident in the days ahead as to who loves Jesus Christ “more than” (see Matthew 10:37) all else, possibly at the cost of even our very lives.

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Co 6:15–18

Dear friends by the time an entire denomination is brought to endorse homosexuality by a “large majority” of their voters one can rest assured that many other orthodox doctrinal “mooring stones” have been hacked away and their denominational ship is adrift from the secure anchor of their souls, Jesus Christ (Hebrews 6:19) and are being tossed by every wave of human and demonic doctrine (Eph. 4:14).

The endorsing of homosexuality is simply the last of the poison vomited out by an already moribund patient. Many other errors preceded this latest abomination. Long before this decision, all of these denominations had embraced women as pastors, changed their stances on Holy Communion, altar fellowship and most assuredly the inerrancy of the Bible.

See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much moreshall notwe escape, if we turn away from him thatspeakethheaven: Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.And thisword, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:For our Godisconsuming fire. Hebrews 12:25-29

The author of Hebrews is writing to believers. He begs them to LISTEN to God and to remember what happened to those that REFUSED to listen (hear and obey His Word). The writer says “hey Christians don’t think you will escape” His judgment if we turn away from Him that speaketh from heaven.

There is a tremendous spiritual “shaking” going on throughout the world directed specifically at the Church. I believe that this shaking is revealing what we really believe. The call is going out “who is on the Lord’s side?” (Exodus 32:26). Those who compromise with this wicked and fallen world are not, they have chosen to become His enemies (Phil. 3:19). Those who stay the course, regardless of the human consequences are those who are on His side.

We are living in very perilous (and somewhat exhilarating) times my brothers and sisters. It behooves each one of us not think more highly of ourselves than we ought (Romans 12:3) and to take heed lest ye fall (1 Cor. 10:12). We must strive to be sure we are building our spiritual lives on the solid rock of Gospel of Jesus Christ and His work and not the sand of human wisdom and our works.

In the days ahead we will be reading about more examples of defection from the true Christian faith and when we do remember that Paul warned us that there must be these divisions to prove what is genuine. God always preserves for Himself a remnant of believers whom He uses to banish the gathering darkness. Pray for those who must make very difficult decisions and ask that our Lord grant them the courage to trust Him and His Word. May they hear the voice of the Good Shepherd and allow Him to lead them out of religious “Babylon” to green pastures and still fresh waters that will nourish their souls.

Before going further let me state that Dispensational theology is not deemed as necessarily heretical in that it does not deny the Person of Christ, the Trinity, inerrancy of Scriptures, etc. Nonetheless, it is a false teaching and as such should be scrupulously avoided because of its horrendous fruit.


D.M.I. has not written specifically about homosexuality, the sanctity of marriage or abortion/pro-life issues for two reasons: (1) DMI sees these issues as self-evident, one does not even have to be a Christian to know that homosexuality and abortion are wrong, but all Christians should know simply by virtue of being a child of God that these things are evil. If readers do not know that sodomy and abortion are great evils, then Truth Matters is simply too advanced for them. (2) There are tons of other groups that deal in nothing but “hot button” social issues, so the information is out there if people are interested in those specific topics.

Presbyterian Church (USA) voted down measure to condemn ‘abortion’ of babies born alive
By Rev. Robert Liichow

DETROIT, MI – The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) overwhelmingly rejected motion suggesting the church publicly condemn the killing of babies born alive after botched abortions. The proposal, offered by the Presbytery of South Alabama at the denomination’s 221st General Assembly in Detroit last week, also suggested the PCUSA take two years to reconsider its support for abortion-on-demand. Fully 78 percent of delegates of the 1.8 million–member PCUSA voted against a “two year season of reflection on the plight of unwanted children,” which called on church leaders to “issue statements that denounce the practice of killing babies born live following an abortion procedure, such as was revealed in the Dr. Kermit Gosnell clinic in Philadelphia.” Obtained from

In the first article we learned of the Presbyterian Church (USA aka PCUSA) endorsing homosexuality. This stance alone is anti-life in that homosexual unions do not produce any children. Now we also see that this same apostate denomination, and make no mistake about it they are apostates, that they are willing to support the murder of children already living outside of the womb! On the on hand they endorse those who cannot produce any seed and on the other hand they accept the killing of the living seed from male/female relationships. Both are completely anti-life stances. It stands to reason that if someone put forth the measure to approve suicide (which is all they have left) it too would be heartily approved.

We have before us a cautionary tale of what happens when a people abandon the Word of God to become “culturally” relevant. The little leaven of compromise enters in and is left unchecked and the end result is that you will murder your own children and I believe eventually yourself. Satan comes with a singular purpose as our Master taught us when He said:

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10

These sad souls have been taken captive by our enemy and through them he is destroying life behind signs that read “Welcome.” If their agreement with the sodomites was not enough to convince people to leave, then perhaps their willingness to allow living babies to be murdered outside of the womb (murdering them
inside the womb is horrid enough) should be enough to get multitudes to leave in abject disgust. One will have to work very hard to convince me that those who remain are genuine Christians. I cannot see how anyone who bears the name of Jesus can side with death. Selah.

Copeland Rolls the “Dice” With Rome
by Rev. Bob Liichow

I am so Blessed! What Jesus asked the Father for in John 17:21, “that we may all be one in Him”, is finally coming to pass.Pope Francis is a man filled with the love of Jesus. All eight of us in our meeting together with him were moved by the strong presence of the Holy Spirit, and our love for one another was strengthened beyond measure. Like I said, I am so BLESSED!What a time to be a believer! -Kenneth Copeland—-

There are two major forces within the Church today; that of the Roman Catholic Church (1.2 billion members) and the Sign-gift/charismatic movement (584+ million members). The Pope himself is a sign-gift enthusiast as well as being a member of the Jesuit order. These two groups comprise the majority of the visible Church.

Discernment Ministries International covered the original outreach that KCM and the Vatican had and the video they shared with one another. Remember Mr. Copeland leading the 1,000’s gathered at his meeting to “pray” in other tongues for El Pappa? That initial overture sent a few nervous ripples through the ranks of the sign-seekers because of the obvious rapprochement between these two men and the organizations they represent.

Kenneth Copeland Ministries (KCM ask Kenneth Copeland SINistries) is comprised basically of millions of people who have no “love” for the Roman Catholic “church.” A major people “block” are his classic Pentecostal support base. These folks have always taught that Rome and its Pope(s) are a cult and are not Christians. Pentecostals, like Lutherans in this respect, have always viewed the office of the Pope as the seat of the “antichrist.”

It was around 1978 when I was “filled” with the Spirit and spoke in tongues via the Word of God Community in Ann Arbor. This community was started directly due to the Roman Catholic charismatic renewal which spread around many college campuses. However, the community demanded that all their members be a part of various local congregations (spread the fire that way). I happened to join a Pentecostal Church of God. Upon hearing I was associating with the community aka tongue-talking Roman Catholics in their minds, they urged me quite strongly to leave them folk alone! Which I did and instead of ending up on the “discipleship” end of the sign-gift spectrum, due to my association with the pastor’s son I ended up in the Word of Faith camp. All of the various types of Pentecostals I associated with were united in their abhorrence of the Church of Rome.

Another large support based for KCM is comprised of ex-Roman Catholics. If anyone has encountered an ex-Roman Catholic then you know how uniformly bitter they seem to be towards the Roman system, and rightly so.

Suddenly, Mr. Copeland is making “nice” with the system that is globally known for its child molestation scandals! Now we see Kenny meeting personally with the Pope and taking photos with him, what gives? Has the Pope stopped praying to Mary? Has he declared there is no purgatory? Has he stopped offering indulgences? Has Poppa stopped proclaiming the sinless birth of Mary and her ascent bodily into heaven? NO, he has not and nor shall he. The Pentecostal devotees and ex-Rome devotees of Mr. Copeland have a legitimate concern over Rome’s doctrines (and they should be equally outraged over Copeland’s false CONcepts) and Copeland has gambled big time in drawing near to Rome.

There is no “shock-and-awe” that this Pope is a tongue-talker; after all in 1967 the Holy Spirit “fell” on the priests and students at Notre Dame, IN. The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) played a major role in the spreading of the ecumenical charismatic renewal in the 1960’s. The RCC has a long history of recording stories of flying monks, weeping statues, visionaries and all manner of mystical flakes. To them they view Mr. Copeland and his several million enthusiastic devotees merely as “lapsed” Roman Catholics who need to be brought back into the fold. It makes sense on the Pope’s part to accept Mr. Copeland’s overture, he has nothing to lose and his overt support shows his followers that he/The Church support “charismatic” ministry.

Some may ask themselves “why Kenneth Copeland ministries” and not someone else? The best I can offer is my opinion here. Copeland is heard or viewed by someone globally 24 hours per day 7 days per week, in short 24/7. I suppose if the Pope had something he really wanted a lot of charismatically inclined people to hear he might use Copeland. It could be that the Pope actually “likes” Copeland’s preaching, being a sign-gifter himself. Perhaps the old Jesuit has some intricate Machiavellian plan and Copeland is just a pawn (maybe the boy from Texas has similar thoughts)?

Personally, I believe Copeland “zigged” when he should have “zagged” meaning he has miscalculated in uniting with the RCC. Initially he stands to lose a large portion of his financial donor base as well as viewership due to his rank-n-file members stance towards the RCC. Here are just a few comments from KCM’s FB page as of 06-29-14 (these are unedited):

Brother Copeland, take time and commune with God on this…I know He will show you the truth about Pope Francis and his desired “One World Religion”…which is a lie of Satan. There can be NO One World Religion, not without compromising the truths that we know to be evident as Christians.

Brother Copeland, I have watched your program for years and I believe that you have explicit knowledge of the bible. I am devastated that you would actually fall for the deception of the false prophet, Pope Francis. He is truly a wolf in sheeps clothing. Please, take time to pray and seek the face of the Lord about this, before you are led down the garden path…….This Pope is not of God.

have listened to you for a long time Brother Copeland; and I’m having trouble believing you could be so easily deceived. Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Pope Francis is a FALSE PROPHET. Matthew 24: 4-5, 24 “Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive man.” “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch, that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”

I CAME OUT OF ROMAN CATHOLIC 25YEARS AGO, after l gave my life to Christ, because their doctorines does not agree with the word of God. their believe of Mary as the mediator contradicts the bible declaration of Jesus as the only mediator between God and man…..their praying through the dead saints….l can go on and on to mention what made me renounce my membership of that sect 25years ago…..Brother Copeland, i have been in partnership with your ministry for years……BUT IF JOINING WITH THE POPE AND CATHOLICS IS THE INTERPRETATION OF JOHN 17:21……I really dont agree to this….

I believe we are living in the times where we are clearly seeing the final forming of a one world religion before our very eyes. Positions once considered unthinkable (sodomy, abortion, infanticide) are widely embraced. Doctrines saints have fought and died for lie trampled in the dung while FALSE doctrine and practices are embraced by the multitudes of professing Christians.

In keeping with the philosophy of the first article the “up side” of this sad morass of spiritual darkness and death is that now perhaps both Roman Catholics and followers of the cultic Kenny can see that they have been following Blind Guides (the Pope & Copeland) and will leave both cults and be brought to repentance and faith in the biblical Jesus Christ and become a part of His genuine Body. One can only hope and pray — which I strongly advise. Let us pray that our merciful Lord opens the eyes of all people entangled in deception, blinded by lies and wandering far from secure anchor of their souls.

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Truth Matters June 2014

28 07 2014

Dispensational Delusions

By Rev. Robert Liichow

This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Galatians 5:8–9

Last month Truth Matters dealt with Mr. Hagee’s excitement over the most recent series of lunar eclipses.  What we were not able to cover was the philosophy underpinning Hagee and many other Christians` understanding of the times in which we live.  Most of Hagee’s prognostications regarding Israel and the pre-tribulation rapture of the Church are solidly grounded on the errant views of John Nelson Darby, Cyrus Scofield, Clarence Larkin and Charles Ryrie.

By all accounts Darby was a brilliant scholar, well-spoken and persuasive in his delivery.  He began his career as a lawyer, jettisoned that and became a priest in the Anglican Church.  Darby was very concerned about what he saw as a “lax” condition of the Church and her need to get back to the scriptures.  Darby was also consumed with the belief that the Lord Jesus Christ was coming back for the Church very soon and that the Church must get ready for His return.

Darby’s beliefs are a perfect example of the apostle Paul‘s warning to the Galatians coming to pass.  How so?  For 1,800 years the Church NEVER taught the false doctrines that Darby/Scofield/Larkin have espoused (the ‘little’ leaven) and yet his CONcepts have become widely dispersed and accepted by Evangelicals globally today!  Our Lord warned of the danger of false doctrine (the leaven of the Pharisees), if left unchallenged that it will spread.

How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. Matthew 16:11–12

Darby began to study the Bible using a rigid dogmatic of applying literalism to the interpretation of the Scriptures.  This is fine as long as one recognizes the different genres of writing within the Bible Itself, which Darby did not.  The Bible contains historical/narrative accounts; Law; Wisdom literature; Poetry; Prophetic writings; Apocalyptic; Parables; Epistles and Romance.  To properly understand the Scriptures one must first recognize the type of literature they are encountering, this is the first step in hermeneutical discovery.  Darby’s theological arrangement became known as Dispensationalism.

As a budding young Pentecostal I worked at a 24/7 gas station and I had an extremely fundamentalist brother as my co-worker.  The only real “difference” between us doctrinally was that I spoke in other tongues and he did not.  I learned that we Pentecostals shared the same understanding of God’s dispensations.  A little later on I came to learn that virtually everyone on television and/or on the revival circuit held to these same basic views regarding Israel, the Church and the end of days.  Just so you know how prevalent this belief system is in America, here are a few of the Bible Colleges and seminaries matriculating pastors upholding this position:

Baptist Bible College, Chafer Theological Seminary, Dallas Theological Seminary, Grace Theological Seminary, Masters Seminary, Moody Bible Institute, Multnomah School of the Bible, Philadelphia College of the Bible, Talbot Theological Seminary, Western Conservative Baptist Seminary

I was fed a steady diet of dispensational dogma for at least twenty plus (20+) years, many people have only been exposed to this view and they know nothing or almost nothing about the position of the Church prior to Darby.  Many of you reading this newsletter currently are probably holding on to some of Darby’s CONcepts.  PLEASE read this article with an open mind and PLEASE do your own RESEARCH, these few pages are meant to inform and educate but also to hopefully serve as a catalyst for further study into the topic presented.

What Is Dispensationalism?

Dispensationalism is an approach to biblical interpretation, which states that God uses different means of administering his will to people during different periods of history, usually seven chronologically successive periods.  It attempts a literal interpretation of scripture with a premillennial and pre-tribulation rapture view.  It sees Israel and the church as distinct bodies. (Thanks to our fellow truth-tellers and friends at CARM for the definition, obtained from

Dispensationalists make very graphic charts of their system.  The chart above shows the seven dispensations of our existence as people starting with “Innocence” and ending in the “Kingdom Age,” which is yet to come.  Currently, we are living in the age of “The Church,” sometimes designated the “Age of Grace.” Darby’s seven dispensations boil down to the following:


  1. Innocence – Adam
  2. Conscience – After man sinned, up to the flood
  3. Government – After the flood, man allowed to eat meat, death penalty instituted
  4. Promise – Abraham up to Moses and the giving of the Law
  5. Law – Moses to the cross
  6. Grace – The cross to the Millennial Kingdom
  7. Millennial Kingdom – A 1000 year reign of Christ on earth centered in Jerusalem

These seven dispensations begin and end with an exactness that is forced upon the texts by using arcane dating systems.  In other words when God created Adam a “cosmic stopwatch” was started. As soon as he ate the forbidden fruit, that watch stopped and God began another one, this time “conscience” a very neat and tidy way to conceptualize biblical history, but it lacks chronological support (we are not given biblically the specific dates and times for any of these seven dispensations).  The following ten bullet points summarize the Dispensationalists beliefs:

  1. Literal interpretation of the Bible
  2. God works via different arrangements in distinct periods of history
  3. Israel is the literal descendants of Abraham, not spiritual ones
  4. Israel is the heir to the promises made to Abraham about the seed being blessed
  5. Participation in the Abrahamic Covenant is “mainly” by physical birth in Jewish lineage
  6. Two distinct people groups:  Israel and the Church
  7. Church began at Pentecost
  8. Salvation is by faith in accordance to the revelation given in a particular dispensation
  9. The Holy Spirit did not indwell people in all dispensations, only during the dispensation of the Church age
  10. Christ will reign in the future 1000 year period which occurs after the rapture

Honestly, there is nothing wrong with the term dispensation when considering God’s work with man, it comes to us from the Greek word oikonomia, which refers to the house law/stewardship/administration.  The Church universal has always held to only two dispensations (until Darby), that of works (Genesis 1:1-3:14) and that of grace (Genesis 3:15-Rev. 22:21).  Christ Himself instituted the covenant of grace in Gen 3:15. The Lord Himself was the first Preacher of the Gospel when He declared, “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” The Lord Himself promised a Saviour from the seed of a woman—the virgin-born Son of God—who will save His people from sin (Isa 7:14, Matt 1:21-23). The covenant of grace is seen throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. They differ in how God administrates, but not in the substance of what He does. The Mediator of both Testaments is the same, namely, the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6, Acts 4:12). The means of salvation is also the same—by grace through faith (Hab 2:4, Rom 4:9-25, Gal 3:7-9, Heb 11:6).  Last month, DMI shared how Mr. Hagee teaches today that the Jews can be saved apart from faith in Jesus Christ, this false teaching comes from Darby’s belief system.

Staunch dispensationalists strongly teach that Law and Grace, like oil and water do not mix.  Ergo, since we are living in the Age of Grace, the Law of Moses given in a previous dispensation does not apply to our lives as Christians today.  For many believers the Law has been abrogated, and is therefore not binding on them living in this age of grace leading to an incipient antinomianism (lawlessness) in their lives.  These believers are extremely confused when it comes to making a proper distinction between the Law and Gospel.  Until a person has a basic understanding of “God’s Yes and God’s No” their Christian life will lack stability.

A litmus test for whether a person harbors dispensational beliefs is simply to ask the individual “are the Jews the chosen people of God today?”  If the individual responds with a resounding “yes” then you are encountering someone who has been unduly influenced by the teachings of Darby and others.

Dispensationalism has two major facets, the first concerns the literal physical descendants of Abraham (on Isaac’s side of the family) and the physical land.  The second is their belief in a pre-millennial pre-tribulation secret rapturing away of all Christians, which could occur at any moment.  This month’s article will consider some facets regarding Israel and the Church.

Israel and the Church

Darby and his followers see the Church as a mere parenthesis in the plan of God brought about by ethnic Israel’s rejection of Christ. For dispensationalists (think of Mr. Hagee), the authentic people of God are the physical descendants of Abraham and obviously their “physical” land is the exact geography given to Abraham.

Often Luther and the other Reformers are wrongly accused of teaching what is called “Replacement Theology” which is defined as the belief that the Church has replaced Israel in the grand economy of salvific history some proponents say that God has exchanged the Gentile world for the Jews.

Dispensationalists and those espousing the “replacement” view affirm the necessity of Christ for salvation; neither is the biblical position regarding the people of God. In both of these cases, the fundamental unity of the people of God across the ages is denied. Both of these views affirm that there are two different ways of salvation, one for the Jews and one for the.

The Bible teaches that there is but one people of God and only one way of salvation. In 1 Peter 2:9, Peter calls his mostly Gentile audience “a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and a people for his own possession.” These are all terms used for the nation of Israel in the Old Testament (Ex. 19:5–6Isa. 43:20–21), and Peter applies them to the church because the church is the true Israel of God. The biblical view (which is sometimes mistakenly called “replacement theology”) does not say that the church “replaces” Israel. Rather, it affirms that true Israel always was, always is, and always will be comprised of those who trust in Christ alone for salvation. This is plain from 1 Peter 2:10. The Gentiles, who were formerly not God’s people, are now God’s people because they have trusted in the Messiah and because they worship Israel’s true King. Old covenant believers were likewise able to be the people of God because they were in Christ. Though they lived before the Son became incarnate, they looked forward to the day in which He would come, and they trusted in Him (John 8:56). Their example likewise shows us that the true Israel of God has always been comprised of those who love and serve the Messiah. (Obtained from DMI’s compatriot in truth-telling R.C. Sproul via his page at

According to dispensational theology the Church is “plan B” of the Lord.  God has only dealt with two groups of His people throughout history, (1) Israel as a nation and (2) the Church as Christ’s body. “The core belief of dispensationalism is to distinguish ‘two purposes of God.’The pre-tribulation rapture is argued on the basis of ‘two purposes of God. ’One purpose is said to be ‘heavenly’ and the other ‘earthly.’ Generally speaking, the heavenly purpose is the Church, and the earthly purpose is Israel. Only the dispensation of the Church Age is involved in the heavenly purpose.”

In their scheme of thinking when Jesus came in His first Advent He offered the Kingdom to the Jews, He came as their Messiah.  The Jewish nation rejected Jesus and His offer and instead had Him crucified.  This is a lie.  Anyone who holds this belief is guilty of calling Jesus a liar.  Furthermore, based on the belief that Jesus came to give Israel a kingdom they teach that Jesus DID NOT COME TO DIE ON THE CROSS, they agree this certainly did happen, but it was not God’s original plan or desire for Him to die!  What does our Lord and His written Word say?

So they gathered them up and filled twelve baskets with fragments from the five barley loaves left by those who had eaten. When the people saw the sign that he had done, they said, “This is indeed the Prophet who is to come into the world!” Perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself. John 6:13-15

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”  Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world—to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” John 18:36-37

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. Acts 2:22-24

Ignoring the scriptures cited they say that due to God’s plan being set back owing to Israel’s unbelief He had to bring in the Church Age, an age of grace to evangelize the world.  Once the Church has done her job on earth, we get “raptured” up to heaven and then God starts up His cosmic stopwatch regarding Israel —- and the Jews go back to temple worship, their human priesthood animal sacrifices, keeping the Sabbath for seven (7) years.  At the end of these seven years Jesus returns with His saints.  We will reside in the New Jerusalem hovering above national Israel’s earthly Jerusalem.  The Jews will rule on earth from Jerusalem and we will rule with God from the heavenly Jerusalem.  Dispensationalism is the well from which Hagee and others have drawn their “duel covenant” heresy (this is a heresy in that it attacks the work of Jesus Christ). This is the CONcept in a nutshell.

Darby et al. seemed to have forgotten that our Lord always chooses and uses the least among us (read Deut. 7:7, Judges 7:7, 1 Cor. 1:28). He uses the remnant and not the multitude.  The Jews/Israel did reject Jesus as their Messiah —- but not all of them, God spared a remnant of believing Jews to birth His Church.  All those involved at Pentecost were Jews who had been brought to faith.  The Apostle Paul even with his vocation to present the Gospel to the gentile world said that the Gospel was given to “the Jew first” (Romans 2:9).

Darbyites seem to be also somewhat ignorant of the sovereignty of God.  God has no “plan B” for anything He does.  He does all His work perfectly, in Him there is not even a ‘shadow’ of change (James 1:17).  How is it that Israel rejected Jesus when 3,000 Jewish men (later on many in their households probably came to faith as well) were cut to their hearts by the Holy Spirit (He had not rejected the Israelites it seems) at the preaching of Peter (Acts 2:14).  How is it that the Lord told them to begin preaching in Jerusalem, Judea and in Samaria and then to the uttermost parts of the world (Acts 1:8) immediately before His ascension if Israel had no place in His ongoing original plan of redemption?  In fact, the disciples were somewhat disobedient to our Lord by staying within Israel until persecution began to hit the nascent Church and then like hot embers the Word began to reach the gentiles as well.

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 6

When our Lord said this the Pharisees knew exactly what He was referring to.  Jesus told them in no uncertain terms that He was and is the source of Israel and thus is “Israel” in the flesh.  The O.T. uses the olive tree, fig tree and grape vine as symbolic of Israel (read Judges 9:7-15, Habakkuk 3:17, Haggai 2:18-19).

Christ is the root or head of Israel.  If one is in Christ then one is in the Israel of God.  The Apostle Paul uses the same type of language regarding the symbolism of the vine in Romans 11:13-24.  Those in the vine are in Israel even as those in the vine are in Christ.  As to the charge of adhering to “replacement” theology let me simply say that there is a BIG distinction between the Church replacing Israel and the Church being the same as Israel all along.

As I have been hammering home, Dispensationalism is based on the idea that Jews after the rapture (end of the Church Age), the physical descendants of Abraham, and who also receive Christ (due to the preaching of the 144,000 Jewish men), will be sole literal heirs of all the Old Testament covenants.  Is this what the Bible teaches?  According to Paul, being a physical descendent of Abraham is not significant with regard to the “promise,” which is in the covenant(s):

But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.”  This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. Romans 9:6-8

If people would simply read deeply Romans 9 a great of confusion can be cleared up regarding who is Israel and to whom do the promises belong.  Being a physical Jewish descendant of Abraham means nothing more to God today than being born an Ishmaelite —- both need faith alone in the work of Christ Jesus alone in order to be part of God’s family.  The Jews looked to their physical descent as proof of their divine election.  The Apostle Paul corrects this damning belief by stating that Abraham’s true descendants are only those who have faith in Christ.

Our Lord rebuked some religious leaders and told them to their face that they were NOT children of Abraham (see John 8:39-44) and in fact they were exposed for who they really were, children of the devil.  The covenant made with Abraham was only for his “true” children/Israel (those born of faith).  Ergo the covenants that followed Abraham’s through Moses and later David — both of whom were true children of Abraham by faith only apply to God’s children.

Because of this false assertion regarding the physical descendants of Abraham (on the ‘Jewish’ side) much of the Gospel material is not for the Christian or the Church Age per se.  Classically Dispensationalists hold that there is a difference between the kingdom of God (KOG) and the kingdom of heaven (KOH).  Any reading of the N.T. shows that the use of these terms should be considered interchangeable.  For example, take the account shown in Matthew 13:11 and Mark 4:11, Matthew uses KOH and Mark used KOG — both citing the same example.  However, when one sees Israel and the Church as one people this becomes a non-issue.

Our Lord’s Sermon on the Mount is another area of misunderstanding on the part of Darbyites.  According to them this teaching is not directed towards Christians (how can it be, Christians/Church are a parenthesis!) but to the Jews only and the future Jews living in the future theocratic kingdom during the coming millennium.  A staunch dispensationalist will not recite/pray “The Lord’s Prayer.”  It too is not for the Church Age, but the Jews.  Why?  Because they view the phrase “forgive us our debts” as being legal terminology which has not place in the life of one under “grace.” I like the way Oswalt. Allis in his, Prophecy and the Church, page 46 explains this:

The meaning is not that if we forgive others we may expect, as a kind of quid pro quo, that God will forgive us. But rather the emphasis is on the fact, brought out so impressively in the parable of the Unmerciful Servant (Mt..23f.) that those who have been forgiven much must themselves be ready to forgive. Those who harbor an unforgiving spirit toward their fellowmen show plainly that they do not realize that they themselves owe everything to the infinite compassion and forgiving mercy of God.” Obviously, forgiving repentant brothers their sins is a fruit of saving faith and not a co-instrument or ground of justification before God. Further, virtually all the ethical teachings of the Sermon on the Mount are found or supported by other portions of the New Testament.

I trust you are beginning to see the tremendous errors that abound within this system of thought.  Due to this false division between Jews and the Church, a great deal of the Gospels and Epistles teachings cannot be applied to the Church.

This view, prevalent as it is, ignores the reality of the continuity of the “Church” from Genesis to Revelation.  They refuse to acknowledge that God has indeed united us into One Body:

But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;  And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. Eph. 2:13-17

The middle wall of partition has been broken down and now both Jews and Gentiles are one holy temple together in the Lord.  The entire belief that physical Jews are somehow “special” and “chosen” by God to this day and thus must be supported by the Church’s total support is not a biblical position.

In closing let me reiterate that there are not two of God’s people today, Jews and the Church.  Nor are there two covenants, one for the Jews to be fulfilled at the Second Advent and one for the Church under grace.  There is but one people, the people of God’s own choosing (read Ps 33:22) and there is but one covenant today and forever, the new and better covenant:

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:31–33.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the New testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Hebrews 8:6-8, 14-15

I realize that some of you reading this article may disagree with it at first, I know I did UNTIL I began to process of researching and studying out that which I had formerly had inculcated into my melon. The manner in which we relate to dispensational theology will be reflected in the way we relate to both God and our neighbors

Media televangelists such as:

Jerry Fallwell, Dave Hunt, Howard Conder, Charles Capps, Pat Robertson, Jack Van Impe, Hal Lindsey continue to popularize dispensational eschatology.

Dispensational Theology has deceived vast multitudes of people.  It is a false doctrine which must not only be exposed but understood by God’s truth-tellers so they can warn others of this pervasive and persuasive doctrine of men and demons.

Truth Matters May 2014

28 07 2014

There Are Blood Moons Arising

By Rev. Robert S. Liichow

Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. Jeremiah 10:2


The leader of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, TX Mr. Hagee has been very concerned about an astrological event, which recently began the appearing of four (4) “Blood Moons” manifesting above our earth until around October of 2015!  Hagee has been spewing forth various warnings about the appearing of these moons on his television program and naturally followed this series up with a new “book.”

Many people within modern evangelicalism are all atwitter over the four lunar eclipses; the first eclipse has already passed us.  It seems we Christians are “primed” to fall for this trick every time it is presented to us.  This reminds me of how many people got carried away with the end-time delusion spun by Edgar C. Whisenant the author of “88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will be in 1988.”  Over 4.5 million copies of his book were sold; many stories appeared of people who quit their jobs, etc. based on his convoluted theories.  When the date came and went Whisenant followed up with three more books predicting the rapture on 1989, 1993, and 1994, none of which sold nearly as well.

Who can forget Y2K?  That too was predicted to be the “end” or beginning of the tribulation etc.  Nor let us not too soon forget our departed friend Harold Camping who predicted the rapture on May 21, 2011.  When that date failed, he said a “spiritual judgment” occurred then but the rapture would be October 21, 2011.  Again, as with Whisenant, people quit their jobs, sold their belongings and waited to be zapped up to heaven.   Every time preachers have predicted the “rapture” or the “return of Christ” throughout Church history they have been wrong and those who followed their false teachings were spiritually hurt.  Hagee’s most recent end-time novelty is going to be another “failed attempt” to reveal that which is not for us to know.

Before we delve, briefly into Mr. Hagee’s theories of the future, let’s take a stroll through his past.

Who is “Pastor” Hagee?

John Hagee carries a large televised “footprint” in that his broadcasts are seemingly on every available Christian television network (he is seen by approximately 99 million homes).  He can be seen using elaborate stage props, huge big screens and loud lively music and musicians.  In other words, Hagee uses virtually every technique covered in last month’s issue manipulating those doctrinally unwary souls who attend his cavernous building.

Hagee holds a somewhat unique position among his fellow SINisters and HELLavangelists (albeit, my sophomoric attempt at humor) in that he actually received some form of theological education.  Virtually every other charismatic luminary on television has no formal education and at best honorary degrees bestowed upon them by Oral Roberts, who handed degrees out like a doting uncle on Halloween.

Pastor John Hagee received his theological training from Southwestern Assemblies of God University, a Bachelor of Arts degree from Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas and earned his Masters Degree from North Texas University.  Pastor Hagee has received Honorary Doctorates from Oral Roberts University, Canada Christian College, and Netanya Academic College in Israel. He is the author of 35 major books including several on the New York Times Best Seller’s List. Among his works are commentary study Bibles, novels and numerous devotionals. His latest book is titled Four Blood Moons.1

On the surface it would seem that Mr. Hagee should be theologically astute and a man of letters.  Upon closer inspection what do we really read? First, he attended an Assemblies of God University in Texas.  Thus, any theological underpinning he did receive was most assuredly the mainline Pentecostal positions regarding the Person and Work of the Holy Spirit, gifts of the Spirit, Church history from a dispensational point of view, and a belief in the position of natural Israel in God’s future plans.  His biography does not state whether he matriculated from here or not, i.e. it does not state he graduated with any degree from there.  He may have attended one semester for all we know.  Next, his web site cites he obtained a Bachelor of Arts degree (B.A.) from Trinity University in his now home town of San Antonio.  Hagee does not mention what field he obtained his B.A. in, but let us assume he received one from their religious department.  The Master’s he cites is also from a legitimate school, but again he omits the field of study.  He may have a degree in Business Administration, etc.  At this time DMI does not know.  This much is certain Mr. Hagee does have three (3) “honorary” doctorates.  He and anyone else with an “honorary” degree should have the self-respect not to call themselves “doctor” when they have not earned that title.  Oh all these charlatans enjoy the additional layer of respectability and the alleged expertise that goes along with being called “Dr. Hagee.”

For all of this education one might think that Hagee would come out possibly as a mainline Pentecostal pastor and yet he did not.  John Hagee is seated near the head of the Word of Faith cult table.  Hagee is nothing more than another reincarnation of deceased “Dad” Hagin’s dismal doctrines, but with his own special twist to things —- Israel, which we will consider shortly.

Hagee’s Fall “Up”        

Sadly, Hagee fell into the same sad satanic trap that seems to ensnare virtually ALL of these HELLavengelists, that of adultery.  Hagee was married, had two children by his wife and was pastoring a charismatic congregation within the Assembly of God denomination.  He ends up committing adultery against his wife with a much younger woman in the congregation:

John Hagee was the leader of the charismatic Trinity Church in 1975 and was the father of two children. John Hagee had an adulterous affair with a woman and admitted to immorality in front of his church. Pastor John Hagee then divorced the mother of his two children and married a younger woman (Diana Castro, now Diana Hagee) from that same congregation. Pastor John Hagee willfully abused his position of trust and power to take advantage of a younger gullible woman and cheat on his wife.  So what happened after John Hagee admitted to cheating and abusing his power? Did he repent and pursue becoming a better person and living a life based on Biblical principles? Did people stop following his ministry? The answers are very obvious. John Hagee married the woman he cheated on his wife with and immediately became the pastor of another congregation-the Cornerstone Church in San Antonio Texas.3

Hagee, instead of fighting for his marriage, receiving counseling and going through the process of restoration and seek to serve his neighbors in some other capacity; he does the wrong thing and jettisons his wife and family to take up with the other woman.

On Sunday May 11th, 1975 on Mother’s Day, after Hagee earlier left his first wife and church he began another church which he called “Castle Hills Assembly” (later calledCastle Hills). was dropped from the name because he was kicked out as a minister with the Assembly of God organization for his admitted adultery.4

Strangely enough, when his adulterous affair was exposed and he divorced his wife rather than repent openly of his sin his sinistry began to grow in their new location (about 2 miles from his first congregation)!  Hagee went independent, leaving or being asked to leave the Assembly of God denomination.  The crowds of thousands of people and the millions of dollars no doubt have demonstrated that “God” has blessed pastor Hagee’s actions and approves of his latest wife, at least in his own view.

Hagee Lives “Large” off the Largess                                                                                                                      

Hagee, like all the rest of the mega-church SINisters believes in living your best life now at the expense of his sheeple.  Ken and Gloria Copeland, T.D. Jakes, Joel and Victoria Osteen among other cathode-ray creations ALL live large off their followers in Texas, so why should Hagee be any different?  In truth, he is not:

Using his lies and deceit, Pastor John Hagee has grown into an enormously wealthy man. In the year 2001, his organization filed revenues of $18.3 million dollars with the IRS. What was John Hagee’s personal compensation package worth? More than $1.25 million dollars. His nonprofit organization, GETV, has a mission statement reading “Spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ”. Somehow I think his nearly 8,000 acre Texas ranch does not help that mission. Not only does Pastor John and his wife Diana Hagee own that sprawling ranch, but they also have a 5,275 foot, 6 bedroom mansion in one of San Antonio’s most exclusive gated communities (The Dominion). The house is appraised at $700,000. . . 3 of the 4 Directors who monitor the board of his nonprofit GETV foundation are his direct family members- his wife, Diana; his son, Matthew; and himself.5

Hagee, like all the others (Copeland, Meyer, Crouch, etc.) stacks his Board of Directors with family members who are no doubt well compensated (although board members of non-profits are supposed to be only reimbursed for their direct personal expenses).

His present church, Cornerstone Church started with 15 people and dedicated in 1987. To increase his political power Hagee formed Christians United For Israel (CUFI) on February 7, 2006. has now obtained over 75,000 members to this new Christ denying cult. How could anyone who confesses Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God belong to this Messiah rejecting organization? It is a contradiction! CUFI along with Hagee work hand in hand with American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a large Jewish organization that lobbies US Congress on behalf of Israel. one AIPAC member comes into a congressman’s office he/she represents 6 million Jews. When Hagee comes into a congressman’s office he claims he represents 40 million Americans. . .6


Hagee and Marching to Zion

As I wrote earlier one of the distinctions that sets Hagee apart from all the rest of the HELLavengelists is his support of the nation of Israel, whom he still views as God’s chosen people.  In his eyes, the Israelis can do no evil, are never to blame for any problems in the middle east and they are to be the future recipients of God’s great plan for them as a “holy nation.”  Thus far those beliefs are held by approximately one in four American evangelicals according to a Christianity Today article.

Hagee takes his support of Israel and the Jews much further than the majority of Christians in that he teaches a false doctrine called a “dual covenant” regarding Israel.  Hagee is shutting the door of redemption in the face of the Jews he says he deeply loves.  According to Hagee the Jews do not need to believe in Jesus as their Messiah to be saved because they have an “eternal” covenant with God through Abraham:

“I’m not trying to convert the Jewish people to the Christian faith… In fact, trying to convert Jews is a waste of time. Jews already have a covenant with God and that has never been replaced by Christianity.” (Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988, sec, 6, pg. 1).

I will not begin to explore his heretical concepts regarding the salvation of the Jews and their need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as anyone else due to the topic at hand —- the Four Blood moons.

 And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years” Genesis 1:14


The four “blood moons” are total lunar eclipses that occur in intervals of about six months, an event known as a tetrad, according to NASA. A total eclipse is a result of a perfect alignment of the sun, the moon and the Earth and causes the moon to glow dark red.  Each eclipse in the upcoming tetrad will occur on a significant religious date, Hagee points out, citing NASA.  “The first of the four blood moons will come on April 15 this year, during Passover. The second will be on October 8, at the time of the Feast of the Tabernacles,” Hagee said, according to the Daily Express London. “On April 4, 2015, during Passover, we will have another blood moon. Then finally, on September 28, during next year’s Feast of the Tabernacles, the fourth blood and final moon will dawn.” Hagee said to “have them fall on these exact dates is something that has to be beyond coincidental,” according to the Daily Express.7

There is no doubt that God has set the stars in the heavens for signs of His majesty and glory and for measuring time.  However, we are not told to look to the stars, moons, asteroids and comets for direction in this life.  If the alignment of the moon sun and earth point to some significant event, then why isn’t it presented to us in the scriptures?  Also, God’s timing is exact and as we shall see Mr. Hagee’s dating is not that “exact.”

According to Hagee’s research he says that God seems to never do anything major with the nation of Israel apart from “Blood moons” appearing.  He cites that in 1492, the year the Jews were expelled from Spain (his dates are off by a year but who’s counting?); 1948, Israel’s war for independence and statehood; and then in 1967 during the Six-Day war.  What Mr. Hagee does not mention are the many “blood moons” which have occurred in which nothing of particular interest happened to the Jews or their country. “The others were in 162/163 A.D., 795/796 A.D., 842/843 A.D. and 860/861 A.D. We don’t have any historical connections for these years at this time...”8  Something else he does not dwell on is the FACT that no one in Israel can even see this series of “Blood Moons” from Israel or most of the Middle East!  If these moons are such an end-time declaration to the people of Israel one would imagine that they would be able to look up, point at the moon and wonder.  Just a word on his use of “Blood Moons” —- well it does sound much more “sexy” than saying the coming “Four Lunar Eclipses” (a little NASA lingo).

What Texts Does Hagee Cite?

I listened to all three of his video teachings on these moons and 95% of what he shares is from the Old Testament and deals primarily with how great the Jewish people are and the coming judgment upon all the nations that hate the Jews (Germany, Iran, Russia and Turkey in particular).  He does not preach about needing to have faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of the Jews and the world.

Hagee boldly states that what he is presenting is a “new revelation from God.”9  To begin with what he is sharing is not “new” there are many other dispensationalists who’ve been studying this event out prior to Mr. Hagee.  One such bizarre person is known as the “Third Eagle of the ApocalypseWilliam Tapley!  Hagee admits that pastor Mark Blitz is the one who got him into this topic.  Also, he states in his opening teaching that he owes much to the scholarly research by two Jewish rabbis.  Hagee seems to believe that Jewish rabbis have a solid understanding of the O.T.!

And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:  But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 2 Cor. 3:13-16

Being a rabbi is proof enough that they have no more “God-given” insight into the Holy Scriptures due to the veil which is upon their hearts.  Going to a rabbi to gain understanding of the O.T. is foolish when many solid evangelical O.T. scholars abound.  Hagee should know better.  He should know that the New Testament reveals the Old and not vice versa and he should know that the Bible is only understood by those in Christ (1 Cor. 2:14) and not the natural man, the person outside of Christ.  Hagee attempts to make the following verses fit his current moneymaking CONcept of these lunar eclipses.

And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.sun shall be turned into darkness,the moon into blood,the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Joel 2:30-31

And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: Acts 2:19-20

Hagee emphasizes that God “speaks” to us by the stars, but are we “listening”?  God is NOT speaking to us by the moon or stars this is called astrology and it is strictly forbidden by God:

You are wearied with your many counsels; let them stand forth and save you, those who divide the heavens, who gaze at the stars, who at the new moons make known what shall come upon you.  Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: There shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Isa. 47:13-14

The heavens “declare” the glory of God and leave man without excuse regarding the existence of God, i.e. natural revelation.  However, the moon and stars do not “speak” to us in any fashion nor do they control our lives or destinies.

Hagee would make much of the Joel & Acts texts (Peter is simply citing Joel) and the lunar four eclipses. The apostle Peter said of Joel’s prophecy “this is that” (Acts 2:16) — Joel was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost.  Peter spoke to a large gathering of men, many of whom lived in and around Jerusalem and others were there for the Passover.  Peter cites Joel being inspired by the Holy Spirit and I believe he is referring back to the event recorded in Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.”  It is beyond me why sign-gift enthusiasts will simply not accept that this prophecy of Joel was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost period, end of story.

When Jesus was born there were not any tetrads of blood moons.  When He was baptized there is no mention of any moon activity.  On the cross all light was extinguished (there cannot be a simultaneous solar and lunar eclipse) and at His resurrection there is no mention of a moon nor at His ascension back to heaven.  The most momentous events in all of human history and yet no lunar reports are associated with them.

Allow me to sum up this latest end-time hype (yes, DMI most certainly believes that our Lord is returning, as to when we have no idea) with the following bulletpoints you can use to answer your family & friends caught up in this CONcept:

  1. Israel, being on a LUNAR CALENDAR will commonly have Tetrad eclipse moon sequences.
  2. If four lunar eclipses are a sign to Israel, then many very important past events like the birth of Christ, Destruction of Jerusalem, Hadrian’s and Hitler’s Holocaust were not marked by God with Tetrads!
  3. Lunar eclipses are common on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles.
  4. Without fail, solar eclipses always occur just before the start of a new month. There is a one in six chance that a solar eclipse will happen on the Jewish New year around Nisan 1. Nothing special about the solar eclipse on Adar 29 2015 Hagee makes so much about!
  5. Of the 8 lunar and solar eclipses, Hagee ignores three.
  6. In 2014/15 there are 4 solar eclipses but Hagee highlights only one eclipse and ignores the other four.
  7. Few of the eclipses start at the beginning of the Feast days only within the 7 day range for each.
  8. Hagee says Lunar eclipses are a sign to Israel, yet none of the Lunar eclipses are visible in Jerusalem, except 1 which is only partially visible. The Bible never says solar eclipses are for the “world” and lunar eclipses are for Israel —- that is pure Hagee.
  9. Hagee says Solar eclipses are a sign to the rest of the world, yet the one he says is a sign (after ignoring three others) is not visible by anyone on earth since it is centered entirely over the ocean near Greenland, except for the small population of people living on the Faroe and Spitzburgn Islands. Something like less than 4,000 people can actually see these events.  No one in the Middle East can see any of this, some “sign.”
  10. There were four Tetrads where the four sequential eclipses coincided with Passover and Feast of Tabernacles that Hagee totally ignored because nothing significant occurred in that year!

Hagee and others are simply milking the latest end-time gimmick for all they can get from it.  Hagee twists most of the biblical texts he cites, redefines terms (like “sign”), ignores other historical facts that do not support his views and frankly LIES about specific dates trying to make them fit his neat little scheme.

Sadly, we have another year until October 2015 to put up with this nonsense.  Keep a sharp eye out for any possible “event” that Hagee can try to pound into his schema.  Russia started to get feisty with Ukraine during the first “blood moon” and we all know what that means, sigh.


End Notes


  2. Robert Tilton, Jim Bakker, Kenneth Copeland, Marcus Lamb, Jan Crouch, Paula White, Benny Hinn, and many other charismatic luminaries have been exposed as adulterers.
  8. Obtained from
  9. First YouTube video on The Four Blood Moons, by John Hagee – he states this early on.



“Christian” Movies Effective or Fallacious?

by Rev. Robert Liichow

Recently there seems to have been a whole spate of moving pictures produced by various SINisters in conjunction with Hollywood and none of these recent attempts are biblically sound.  First, we had to suffer through “The Bible” on television and after each episode Facebook and other sites would fill up with citations of all the erroneous non-biblical tidbits thrown in.  Roma Downey one of the people behind the series is at best a “New Age” Christian.  Then we had the epic “Noah” foisted upon the unsuspecting flock.  This “adaptation” of the biblical account turned out to be a call for climate change and was filled with incidents (the attack of the “rock” people?) that never occurred. Now, the heretic T.D. Jakes is financially backing a film version of Todd Burpo’s mythical visit to heaven.  What is more it seems that Jakes worked out a deal with Sony Pictures to produce this epic tale.  Here is their official statement on the movie:

Based on the #1 New York Times best-selling book of the same name, HEAVEN IS FOR REAL brings to the screen the true story of a small-town father who must find the courage and conviction to share his son’s extraordinary, life-changing experience with the world. The film stars Academy Award® nominee and Emmy® award winning actor Greg Kinnear as Todd Burpo and co-stars Kelly Reilly as Sonja Burpo, the real-life couple whose son Colton (newcomer Connor Corum) claims to have visited Heaven during a near death experience. Colton recounts the details of his amazing journey with childlike innocence and speaks matter-of-factly about things that happened before his birth … things he couldn’t possibly know. Todd and his family are then challenged to examine the meaning from this remarkable event.

DMI debunked this latest trip to heaven several months ago in a previous issue of “Truth Matters.” As always, the problems with these kinds of accounts is that they ALL undermine the sufficiency and supremacy of Scripture, and add to the Bible (extra-biblical) new information while also being contrary to Scripture. I am not going to re-hash what was written about 4 year old Burpo’s account suffice it to say that it does not agree with the teachings in the Bible regarding heaven.

What I find frustrating is that multitudes of people who probably do not regularly attend church will attend one of these movies and assume it is fairly accurate (we’ve been well programmed to accept what we see on a big screen) having no solid biblical foundation to even make that judgment call.  I do not like hearing false teaching or simply “ignorant” preaching nor do I enjoy visually seeing that which is false and misleading. . . and I REALLY RESENT paying $7.50 a ticket and then $5.00 for small popcorn!

Brothers and sisters I know we are bombarded daily with anti-Christian messages and we live in a time when the Church is suffering great persecution globally and now even in our own country the heat of ungodly hatred is beginning to be felt by many of us.  Because of this pressure it is easy to want support and get “excited” about something even just a little bit Christian.  Yet I warn that we should not get excited about something that is merely positive versus being true.

Can God use motion pictures?  Yes, He can, after all He even uses the devil (what you don’t think Satan is autonomous do you?) but that does not mean that He is using these movies.  Anything that speaks against the clear writings in the Bible is something that our Lord is not involved in.  If we would learn about our Lord and His Word, then let us assembly where He promised to be —- in His Church.  He has placed pastors and teachers in our midst to be His vessels of instruction.  Live face-to-face one-on-one human interaction is the general manner in which our Lord shapes and forms us into His people.

Some will argue that God can use these movies to engender conversation between Christians and non-believing attendees.  Again, He can, but in order to do so the Christian has to correct all the unbiblical information “included” as well as rectify any heretical concepts presented in the film(s).

In closing, let me state for the record that certainly God should be glorified through all the arts, in music, literature, dance, video, etc.  However, when the Word He has given as the revelation of Himself to humanity is marred by error and nonsense then it ceases to bring Him glory and thus should not be supported by His children with their time (non-renewable) or their treasure (better spent).

Meet Brothers Paul and Kenneth Makete

Paul Kenneth

Brother Paul Makete is on the left and his 10 year old brother, Kenneth, seated is on the right.

DMI met Paul Makete on Facebook.  Many people from India, Pakistan, and Africa seek support on FB, many of them are sincere, but some are not.  Paul and his brother are orphans, Paul looks after his younger brother.  They are Christians, Lutherans in particular.  The reason DMI prayerfully decided to begin to support these two brothers is because Paul NEVER asked DMI for money, he simply wanted to become friends.

Since meeting Paul and learning about him, his pastor, their schooling DMI has decided to support Paul & Kenneth as best we can.  To date: DMI has sent Paul & Kenneth some school supplies, Bible study materials and some other items.  Their lives in Uganda are very difficult and even what little we can provide means a great deal to them.

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